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  1. Stephen Charles Lynn

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    Using the surface wizard to flatten my spoil board set parameters run simulation nothing moves! I have attached a screenshot and a screen grab of the g-code response. I am not sure how to access the information in the serial console . Select and paste doesn't work
     

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    Post the gcode file too please (Save button on the Gcode Editor tab)
     
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    gcode attached
     

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    Sim's just fine for me... Make sure to zoom in so you can see it, its a large job

    Works just fine.gif
     
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    the machine just sits there not moving when I run the same program!
     
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    Are you questioning Simulation or Running the actual job? Conflicting part of the question there as its two very different things. Simulation is just a Preview in the 3D view.

    If its Simulating (as per first question) but not Running (new question) I have a question, do you perhaps have an IoT Relay?
     
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    When I run the framing it runs in the opposite Direction The simulation i would expect to go positive in X it runs in a negative direction and collides with the left-hand end stop. looking from the machine My limit switches are positioned on rear left machine homes to rear Left side when I do the framing according to the diagram as best as I can tell the start position is bottom left or is it top right. I have reduced the table size to a minimum amount 400 x 400 mm. Placing the machine centre of the work area the machine just runs into left limit (as viewed from the front) without triggering the limit switch?
     
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    Check the Hello World to make sure machine is not mirrored: docs:blackbox-4x:hello-world [OpenBuilds Documentation]

    Surface workable area only to avoid hitting switches. Determine workable area by jogging and noting DROs

    There is no 400x400 minimum. You can surface as small as your endmills allows too. Bottom left is origin.
     
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    I will have a look Tomorrow. I have a large spreadsheet to finish for our Field Archery Comp on Sunday at the moment
     
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    I have checked the axis and x,y and z operate as described in the video. X moving to the right is positive movement Y moving to the rear is a positive movement Z moving up is a positive movement.
    On switching on this morning another problem has arisen. The machine was centre of the table pressing home Z was ok X move negative to home. When Y started the carriage moved to the rear suddenly stopped and moved back about 10mm This has never happened before I am at a loss as to what is happening. I have sent you the G-Code plus a screenshot of what the last few lines of the code is saying it seems to be sending a positional command?
     

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    Y stopped unexpectedly during homing, and then moved forward about 10 mm? Sounds as though the Y switch was triggered before the gantry reached it - check the wiring to the Y switch and use the troubleshooting tab to check that the Y switch is functioning correctly.

    Alex.
     
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    Y didn't stop it reversed direction at a given point in its travel axis was nowhere the Y switch it was about 150mm away from it. It's happens at the same point along the axis and reverses by about the same amount
     
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    Please confirm whether this is happening during the homing cycle?
    Sorry, you said it suddenly stopped and reversed direction by about 10 mm, and that does sound as though the Y limit switch was triggered and the controller thought the Y homing had been completed.
    The other possible cause of sudden direction changes (although it tends to be quite random) is that you have a poor connection on one of the stepper motor wires.
    docs:blackbox-4x:faq-identify-motor-coils [OpenBuilds Documentation]

    Alex.
     
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    I have put into continuous jog and the software telling me its gone into soft limit. Disable soft limit and its ok. The carriage is at least 100mm away from the Y Limit. its been working fine up until now
     
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    I must apologies I found the problem The $5 was set to =7 and not =0 All working i will check if the spoil-board is correct later
     
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    Soft Limits is not currently supported by CONTROL on the X32 - keep disabled (as per our profiles)
     
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    I have been away for a couple of weeks. Back on it today.
    The machine has been working fine Homing ok until today when I taught the XY0 work position which was front left as viewed from front of machine. I then sent the machine home The machine Homed in the Z axis but when Homing in the X axis it triggers the proximity sensor moving left but doesn't move out of the trigger point to the right to reset the switch (it stays enabled). I have enabled and disabled the hard and soft limits but nothing changes still has a fault. I can reset the switch by moving X o the right about 0.5mm. I then try and move in the Y axis which moves positive to the front of the machine. trying to move negative it will only move back -Y by the amount I stepped forward. Everything was fine until I taught the work position. Obviously I have done something wrong. Is there a way I can get back to the position before I taught this XY0 reference or can you advise on what I have done wrong and how to correct it?
     
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    you just need to change the pulloff distance, proximity sensors need a bit more pulloff than mechanical switches.
    in openbuildsCONTROL activate the 'grbl settings' tab
    set the value for 'homing switch pulloff distance' to far enough to reliably untrigger all the proximity sensors.

    pulloff.png
     

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