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First Homing Cycle FAIL

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  1. STAFFORD BOIVIN

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    My 15 15 has been running great until yesterday .
    After Zeroing all axis and clicking on Run Program for a simple Vcarve clearing path. The Z axis rises all the way to the upper limit switch and stops the cut. Each time I’ve repeated this for this cut it does exactly the same thing.
    I then opened a similar (previous) job which performed as it should have. It seems like the data is tainted on just the one project but I’m unsure what kind of commands cause the Z Gantry to raise to the limit switch everytime you run the program. There’s a fair ammount of detail and I would like to avoid starting all over again in Vectric.
     
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    Did you remember to HOME prior to setting Zero?
    Also recheck your Post / CAM options as well (Z safe hieghts, start/end of job, etc) and reCAM after adjusting any incorrect Z values
     
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    I did “home” after the initial error. Afterward the same error occurred.
    Sorry this is very early in my learning curve for CNC so I’m not sure what these other terms refer to
     
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    I also reset the Gimbals and restored the backed up settings for the machine.
    With no better result.
     
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    Please post one of the failing GCODE files as well so we can help you check it
     
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    Will have to do that this evening when I get home..
    Thanks
     
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    No need to, we'd have advised if we felt that was needed - avoid additional unrequested steps - it makes troubleshooting harder as we might have to deal with additional issues created by these attempts
     
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    after build of my 1515 .. I ran the homing cycle.. all axis drove in the wrong direction of the limit switches and my z axis collided with the spoil board .. I inverted my axis' .. but is that due to something I screwed up with the wiring? additionally will it lead to other problems ..

    also I am trying to look up reference material on post / CAM settings and items you referenced earlier for my z axis fail issue. can you break it down a little more for this idiot ? I only just entered this rabbit hole and cant find any reliable reference material for these technical features
     
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    1) make sure the machine jogs the correct ways first
    2) homing dir just says where the switches are

    A must-read is the entire Grbl Wiki at github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki
     
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    Ive been sifting through there .. sorta technical and hard to translate or even find what im looking for.
     
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    - Basic info on axis directions and basic commisioning Grbl v1.1 Configuration · gnea/grbl Wiki
    - Direction Invert: Grbl v1.1 Configuration · gnea/grbl Wiki
    - Homing Directions Setting: Grbl v1.1 Configuration · gnea/grbl Wiki
    - More In Depth discussion on Homing Directions and where the switches normally are (axis maxima - but on some of our builds XY-Min, and Z-Max) : Frequently Asked Questions · gnea/grbl Wiki
    - Vectric tutorials https://www.youtube.com/c/vectric/videos
    - VCarve Pro documentation Vectric Documentation
    - OpenBuilds' Vectric Post Processor: docs:software:vectric [OpenBuilds Documentation]

    This is all over and above our in depth videos for your machine of course, and seperate introductory videos like the Hello World etc
     
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    Thanks so much man !!! I’m going to save all of this … ive been reading up on that Grble link you sent me too.
    I realized when I got home that the dimensional set up had switched from material surface to machine bed so it looks like the gantry for the Z access was trying to raise up above what it thought what is the material height.. Which completely explains why the other two programs I ran worked perfectly fine
     
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    And just to be clear you’re suggesting that I run the homing cycle each time I power the machine on or off?
    Does the homing process also reconfigure the axis each time it runs ?

    Since I’m running smaller projects that are nowhere close to the limits I’ve been just zeroing the Machine on my cutting boards center prior to running every time
     
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    After every power up, every alarm, every abort, every error. Anything that could make you loose machine coordinates


    No. Homing sets Machine Coordinates. Work Coordinates is an offset from Machine Coordinates
    Machine Coordinates are only set by Homing. Work Coordines are set by zeroing or probing


    That implies you are setting stock origin as center in Vectric too. You Zero whereever your origin in CAM is - to align where the CAM was told the stock is, with where the stock actually is.

    Yes that would have been the mistake
     

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